Episode 44: Question of the Month with John Neral
In this “Question of the Month” episode, author, podcast host, and mid-career coach John Neral stops by to help me answer the question, “How do I know when I’ve hit my ‘mid-career moment’ when I’m looking to do something different – what are the signs?”
John also shares his career journey and lessons learned, how to level up your skills for mid-career change, key factors to consider for making a move, and more. As usual, I conclude the show with the weekly “Reignition Recommendation” career tip.
[00:26] Welcome to Reigniting You® where we talk all things career transition for those age 40+. Happy to be with you today and our producer, Eric.
[02:42] Welcome back to Reigniting You® the show that focuses on all aspects of making mid-late career transitions.
[03:16] Excited to introduce my guest today, mid-career coach John Neral. Welcome to the show!
[04:46] Lisa asks John to share his career path – started as church organist in 8th grade; pursued career in education after college; moved into professional development and assessment; then went external.
[07:28] What would you say is a key lesson or two that you learned along the way? John – adopt a learner’s mindset – curiosity; trust your gut.
[09:49] What else was particularly helpful that got you through times of change and your career transitions? John – learning to embrace risk.
[14:50] Visit https://yournewaspect.com to sign up for career tips and take a free Career Transition Readiness Quiz or to contact Lisa. Go to Services/Group Programs to register for free webinar.
[15:31] “Question of the Month” – How do I know when I’ve hit my ‘mid-career moment’ when I’m looking to do something different – what are the signs? John – moment when you start hearing the voice saying you’re unhappy and ready for a change.
[17:47] What are things people can do to level up in their mid-career to ensure they’re keeping up with the pace of work, technology, or other workplace changes? John – take ownership of professional development; asking for what we want to learn; hire a coach or find a mentor.
[20:06] Tell us more about the phrase “Mid-Career GPS” that’s in the title of your upcoming book and the name of your podcast. How did you come up with that? John – wanted people to have some kind of guidance system; we need certain stopping points – four steps.
[21:23] What are the most important factors to consider when looking to make a mid-career transition – what do people need to keep in mind? John – what’s the motivation? Come from a place of value and service; why is a title important to you? Professional brand and controlling narrative.
[24:05] What are some of the common issues you see raised with the people you work with when it comes to fear and trepidation around making a big change? John – lack of insufficiency compared to their sufficiency; mindset work – how to adopt learner’s mindset.
[26:08] Reignition Recommendation – stop comparing yourself to other people.
[27:35] A reminder to visit https://yournewaspect.com to sign up for career tips and take a free Career Transition Readiness Quiz or to contact Lisa. Go to Services/Group Programs to register for free webinar.
[27:54] Join us next week when I’ll answer listeners’ career transition questions for our monthly “Ask Lisa” episode. As a reminder, you can email your questions or leave a voicemail at 360-436-6496.
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